Medical Murder Most Foul

I’ve decided to gather a number of stories from blogging compatriots about how loved ones have suffered and died while in the hands of medical “caregivers”. These tales are from across the nation in mostly in very recent years, the post-Covid era. People are being killed by the medical “care” system, but really this is at the behest of their governments. God help us us all to restore the soul of convalescent care.

I started by sharing the devastating tale of decline, disability, & death of a distant relation. This comment was copied across a number of sister blogs, all really subsets of the Conservative Treehouse blogosphere. Each voice is thus a Treeper of one stripe on another. These aren’t just ghost stories being told around the proverbial campfire, they are collective tales of suffering & loss from the experiences of loved ones.

May the Lord help each of us to see the pitfalls swirling in convalescent & end-of-life care so that we can protect ourselves and our loved ones from suffering as so many who have gone before us have done.

Here is my original comment from the Q-Tree that started the ensuing discussion...

Valerie Curren(@valeriecurren)

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 January 11, 2024 04:50

#1215066

I’ve been holding on to this ground report since before Christmas. This is another clot shot horror…AND moar.

Roughly November 2022 one of my son’s wife’s aunt, who was “vax’d” & likely “boosted” had a massive health event, presumably a stroke, that left her very incapacitated & on a ventilator/breathing machine. She was mostly paralyzed & ultimately got a tracheostomy, iirc. She was in & out of the ICU for weeks/months & when eventually stabilized sent to a nursing home or rehab center.

Many months of back & forth health issues occurred that saw her travelling between the hospital & the nursing/rehab facility. She never returned home after that “stroke”. My DIL or her sister accompanied their mother to her sister’s bedside to care for her sometimes even twice a month, often living in their car to offset costs for this repeated travel…

Several times it appeared that she was close to death & my DIL & her mom & sometimes her sister would make emergency trips to be with this aunt. Each time she rallied. Slowly she began to regain some minimal functioning including the ability to communicate with her loved ones, but I think this was more via gestures rather than verbally.

DIL’s mother is the oldest sibling in that family, & they were all from Mexico, so there are language & cultural barriers (not to mention special needs) making it hard to get a Complete picture of what exactly was going on with this whole scenario. A couple times my son’s MIL read the riot act to health care providers as her sister’s care was sub-par in the extreme, leaving her with open bed sore wounds, as large as the palm of your hand & having bone exposed & providing no medicine or treatment other than washing them w/ soap & water, apparently only when her sister would “scream” at them.

So, these things were happening in the vicinity of DC, in Virginia. I was hearing a lot of things second & third hand from my son or DIL but finally spoke w/ son’s MIL after her sister’s passing & learned the worst, which I unfortunately had suspected.

As I said before a number of times this aunt was near death, or so the Michiganders were told, & they rushed to be at her bedside repeatedly. Finally they were assured she was in fact “dying” & that there would be one final visit to say goodbye before “life support” was removed. My understanding was that this meant they would be turning off the ventilator/breathing machine.

Anyway, info was trickling in that “other things” were being removed as the aunt continued to linger…I suspected a Terri Schaivo scenario & that was horrifyingly confirmed in the discussion w/ son’s MIL following her sister’s death.

Basically, at some point, & the MIL wasn’t sure just exactly who made this decision, they stopped giving her food & liquids & basically starved & dehydrated her to death. The MIL was with her sister days before she passed & observed someone wafting her favorite type of coffee in front of her nose but refusing to allow her a drink even though she clearly wanted one.

So someone decided to off a medically fragile, severely “vax injured” disabled woman who was NOT in a (controversially “assessed”) persistent vegetative state. She was brought into this condition directly as a result of the Covid Clot Shot, in my opinion. She suffered being starved & dehydrated to death over the majority/entirety? of the 9 days she lasted after turning off “life support”.

This is NOTHING like the scenario shared at the Q-Tree recently of a loved one who passed after about 20 minutes when turning off life support.

This family is mostly from Mexico & speak Spanish & some heavily accented English, at least the MIL’s generation. The aunt’s husband & adult daughter were involved in the decision to allow the removal of “life support” but it is unclear, given language & cultural & perhaps even financial barriers, if they had Fully Informed Consent as to what was to be done to their wife & mother. My son’s MIL was definitely Not in the decision process but was a witness several times to her sister’s suffering & is straight up convinced that she was starved & dehydrated to death.

I don’t know if insurance was a factor in this process for this woman had lingered in her very diminished state for just over a year, ultimately passing just before Christmas.

Barak Hussein Obama’s Death Panels are alive & kicking…

I am repulsed & horrified by this needless suffering & cruel treatment culminating in a torturous medical murder by an apparent American version of the “Liverpool ‘Care’ Pathway”. There are No Words for this Monstrous Evil inflicted on a regular person who naively just went along with mandates/recommendations to get injected w/ genocide juice.

Any thoughts? How can a Terri Schiavo style death be “standard of ‘care’” in America???

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20240111

One of the first replies was from an epic researcher who brings the sauce (sources) to document how this is being done deliberately over multiple countries 😡

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 January 11, 2024 05:02

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“…, they stopped giving her food & liquids & basically starved & dehydrated her to death…”

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That is the Liverpool Care Pathway. It was what we feared Obamacare would morph into.

The Fabians in the UK have been offing the over 55 population for a while now.

From my notes in 2015:

I am not going to remove the HTML tags. It takes too long.

The news stories started out like this:

<blockquote> Nearly 1,200 people have starved to death in NHS hospitals because <b>’nurses are too busy to feed patients’
For every patient who dies from malnutrition, four more have dehydration mentioned on their death certificate</b>… (wwwDOT)dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287332/Nearly-1-200-people-starved-death-NHS-hospitals-nurses-busy-feed-patients.html </blockquote>

And this

<blockquote>
Four patients die thirsty or starving EVERY DAY on our hospital wards show damning new statistics
Data shows 1,316 deaths were linked to or directly caused by dehydration and malnutrition in 2010
Figures are far higher than in 2000, when 862 deaths were recorded
One hospital forced to prescribe drinking water for its patients
(wwwDOT)dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090332/Four-patients-die-thirsty-starving-EVERY-DAY-hospital-wards-damning-new-statistics.html
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The telegraph reports:
<blockquote> <b>the NHS comes first in Europe when it comes to the percentage of hospital patients suffering malnutrition: a whopping 58%,</b> compared to 24% in the Netherlands and just over 30% in Denmark.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/cristinaodone/100131793/visiting-a-patient-in-a-british-hospital-then-take-them-food-and-water-just-to-be-safe/ </blockquote>
The comments in the last article give life to the horrific conditions in the UK hospitals.

Note how the nurses are blamed and doctors are <i>”forced to prescribe drinking water”</i> — Yeah, right.

𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗱𝗼𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝘁𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝘁 𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗯𝗮𝗴. 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗱𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵 𝗶𝘀 𝗱𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗯𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗵𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝗳 𝗳𝗼𝗼𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 (𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗽𝗼𝗼𝗹 𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗣𝗮𝘁𝗵𝘄𝗮𝘆) 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗻𝗼𝘁 ‘𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁’ 𝗯𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲𝘀… 𝗢𝗢𝗣𝗦

<a href=”http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161869/Top-doctors-chilling-claim-The-NHS-kills-130-000-elderly-patients-year.html?ICO=most_read_”>Top doctor’s chilling claim: The NHS kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year: Professor says doctors use ‘death pathway’ to euthenasia the elderly

Around 29 per cent of patients that die in hospital are on controversial ‘care pathway’</a>

Then as investigative journalists dig deeper it is found that it is not the Doctors but the <b>GOVERNMENT</b> that is the cause of the deliberate starvation and dehydration of there citizens. <a href=”http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9644287/NHS-millions-for-controversial-care-pathway.html”>NHS millions for controversial care pathway
The majority of NHS hospitals in England are being given financial rewards for placing terminally-ill patients on a controversial “pathway” to death,</a>

The Government PAYS hospitals to starve the patients to death. They also use the Liverpool Care Pathway on infants and children they deem ‘useless’ Doctors now have Saturday and Sunday off so if you are admitted on a weekend chances are you will be stuck on the Liverpool Care Pathway. Also the UK Govenment is suggesting they need to ‘Check-up” on older folk… so they can toss them in the hospital and starve them to death no doubt.

Think that is bad? It gets worse.

Now they are calling for After birth Abortions
<blockquote> Ethicists call for killing of newborns to be made legal
by Madeleine Teahan
posted Wednesday, 29 Feb 2012
<b>Professors from Milan and Oxford argue that ‘foetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons'</b>
A leading British medical journal has published an article calling for the introduction of infanticide for social and medical reasons.

The article in the Journal of Medical Ethics, entitled “After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?” states in its abstract: <b>“After-birth abortion (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.”</b>
(wwwDOT)catholicherald.co.uk/news/2012/02/29/ethicists-call-for-killing-of-newborns-to-be-made-legal/
</blockquote>

And the people in the USA were told this was the healthcare system that was so much better that what we had!?!?!

<b>WE WERE GRUBERED!</b>

Speaking of Gruber, Obamacare is all about removing medical care FROM the elderly and giving it TO the illegals.
<a href=”http://www.aapsonline.org/index.php/article/if_you_like_your_medicare_you_can_keep_your_medicare/”>If You Like Your Medicare, You Can Keep Your Medicare</a> By Jane M. Orient, M.D.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160304182601/http://www.aapsonline.org/index.php/article/if_you_like_your_medicare_you_can_keep_your_medicare/
<blockquote>…You can drop Medicare Part B, though there is a penalty for getting back in. But to drop Medicare Part A, <b>you have to give back all the Social Security payments you ever received, as well as forgoing future payments.</b> <i>[MAJOR STICK to beat you into submission.]</i>

Medicare rules are forcing many independent physicians to give up their practice, and either retire early or become employees. Physicians who do remain in practice may not accept Medicare patients, or limit the number they see. <b>If you are a Medicare patient, the entire Medicare regime is in the examining room or hospital room with you, like it or not. You are not allowed to be free for a day. Neither is the doctor….

Medicare is also making it increasingly difficult for Medicare patients to get tests, consultations, oxygen or other home-health items, or medications prescribed by a non-Medicare doctor, sometimes even if the patient is willing to pay privately.
</b>

Why should this be?

Keep in mind that Medicare is not yours. The money you paid in all your working life is long gone. Your benefits are coming out of the wages of people like Larry, John, and Jesus, who toil at Arnold’s gas station, and all of them are having a hard time these days. Now that payroll tax receipts are less than payouts, benefits are coming out of general tax revenues, which redeem the IOUs in the “Trust Fund.” And the ever-increasing Part B premiums pay only 25 percent of benefits. If you are on Medicare, you are a liability—to your doctor and to society.

<b>Medicare does offer some fine new “benefits”—such as paying for “end-of-life” counseling.</b>

Medicare counseling, however, is not about life insurance, wills, or funeral arrangements—or about making peace with your family or God. <b>It’s about reducing the cost of your care.</b> The most expedient way to do that is to use “end” as a verb.

These days you can no longer assume that a hospital will seek to prolong your life and restore you to the health you enjoyed before you fell ill. <b>It is much easier for the hospital if you give them permission ahead of time not to try. The purpose of the “advance directive” is to decline “life-sustaining treatments”—such as food and water.</b>
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This conversation ensued regarding one Q-Treeper’s father’s suffering and death:

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 January 11, 2024 09:34

That’s what “hospice” did to my father. It was traumatic. Being overwhelmed and assuming this was “humane” in end of life treatment we stayed by his side watching this torture until I began to lose it. Once I got emotionally out of control about it they upped his morphine to basically stop the outward signs of his distress and then he died.

I will never trust what they call hospice again..ever.

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 January 11, 2024 10:08

mollypitcher5
I’m so sorry about your father. When it was time for my late husband to go into Hospice care, he insisted that he have Hospice at Home care. I had to hire extra professional help for him (CNA’s, PT, RN). This cost money in real amounts. This money came from his and my savings. I figure that almost $50,000 was used during his time in Hospice at Home care before he passed away. Thank God we had the savings to do this. I tell people now they need to have at least 50% of what they would pay for a decent-sized new house in cash in the bank and ready to use to pay for what Medicare won’t pay for.

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 January 11, 2024 10:32

Thanks Pavaca. I think this is how we got caught up in the deception. When my mother was at her end medicare allowed home hospice. Of course it wasn’t all soft and easy but she wasn’t struggling, she was seemingly comfortable.
When his condition became dire they suggested ‘pallative hospice’ in a facility. We thought it would be fine and nice to have 24hr medical . It was as I said…horrible.

I’m glad that you and your husband opted to have home hospice. The way we say goodbye to our loved ones is so important because it’s literally our last memories together.

My regret and guilt is still hard to deal with but I can push it down to remember our lives before those last days.

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 January 11, 2024 14:20

…”and guilt” no offence meant, but I believe this is False Guilt.

You were operating under the best available info you had at the time, attempting to do the best you could with what you had available to work with.

Any Guilt that should be assigned here should be directed at these killing systems & those who sugarcoat the horrors to deceive people into placing loved ones into death “care”.

I appreciate what you’ve shared for it will help me in my decision making if the time comes to face such choices for my own parents. May the Lord provide you with His comfort…

I also had a conversational aside based on witnessing the suffering & death of a newborn in the middle of the night in the NICU where my just born twins were being cared for after their premature birth:

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 January 11, 2024 07:07

I witnessed a post-birth abortion of a newborn baby being left to die, naked laying on a metal tray under warming lights just after my twins were born. Staff claimed they were “doing all they could do” for this precious girl but that was Clearly a Lie. EVERY other baby in the NICU was in a diaper, in an isolet or bassinet with various leads attached to monitor heart & breathing, at a minimum, & often in clothing & w/ a padded, cloth covered surface/mattress to lay on, & also with receiving blankets to keep them warm & comfortable.

The only time I saw staff attend to the dying girl, she’s Baby Grace in my mind, was to bring her in & position the warming light, ignore her when she gasped for breath even when I alerted them to her needing attention, & then checking w/ a stethoscope to ensure she was in fact dead before wrapping up her body & taking her to the morgue.

To my eternal shame I just sat in my rocking chair in the corner “nursing” Brandon while all this went down in the middle of the night. I wish that I’d held her & sang & prayed with her (I was praying for her from afar) before she went to meet her Maker. I was beyond horrified that she was just left to die alone like that. She had a cleft palate & they said there was “nothing they could do” for her, but was that because the parents didn’t want a “defective” child so just wanted her to be gone? Only God knows   

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 January 11, 2024 07:15

You had troubles of your own and likely didn’t register fully what was happening, but it was MEANT for you to see that — not to feel eternal shame, but for you to bear witness and act accordingly in the future.

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 January 11, 2024 07:19

TY Cthulhu & Amen.

My daughter, Clarissa, wrote a Very Moving song about this experience of mine & that precious girl that was thrown away. I cry Every time she sings & plays it. It is haunting, beautiful, God-honoring, & challenging for people to see these precious ones, the Gift of Life & all….

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 January 11, 2024 07:16

missed the “edit” by that much…

That video above almost represents my mom’s birth circumstances. Her parents were unwed teens, birth mom age 14 at conception & 15 at birth, while her birth dad was 16/17. Though I don’t think her birth mom would have aborted her as the birth dad was the “love of her life” according to birth relatives we met after my mom was 60, it is possible if that option would have been more readily available, my mom, her 3 kids, 11 grandkids, & 5 great-grandkids (+1 in the oven) wouldn’t be here now! 21 souls & counting!

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 January 11, 2024 07:27

“…She had a cleft palate…”

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It is a common defect and can be repaired.
CDC: About 1 in every 1,700 babies is born with cleft palate in the United States.1

What Is Cleft Lip or Palate Repair? https://www.gillettechildrens.org/conditions-care/cleft-lip-and-palate-repair

Cleft lip and/or cleft palate repair is surgery to fix separation of the upper lip or a split in the roof of the mouth. Cleft lip and palate can be repaired through plastic surgery.

Surgery is designed to improve a child’s ability to eat, speak and hear, and restore a more normal appearance. An infant’s initial cleft lip and/or cleft palate repair often makes a vast difference in quality of life. Secondary procedures, however, might be needed for functional reasons or to refine appearance.

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 January 11, 2024 07:39

Yes. She may have had other medical issues but they surely wouldn’t have told me due to confidentiality. She was turning purple & gasping for breath…eventually, but she was laying on her back & may have been drowning in the fluids of the birth process & aftermath, I honestly don’t know. It was heartbreaking    It might have been a half hour or more before she ultimately succumbed 

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 January 11, 2024 08:01

CRUEL! I treat my baby lambs and kids better.

This interlude discusses the lack of care at the hospital, even when at the ER. Though not included here, on another day at TheQTree.com fellow Q-Treeper Scott described his ER horrors when he thought he was experiencing a heart attack & how he was literally turned away & told to drive to facilities across town. That doesn’t even touch on the many people who were denied care at the height of the “pandemic” scenario because they had not submitted to injecting unknown substances into their body 😡

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 January 11, 2024 17:02

Anyone getting admitted to the hospital via an emergency would be advised to take along some snacks with them if they suspect they’ll be staying any length of time. Wife was admitted once and me another time for differing reasons, but until you get dropped into a ward all those people hovering about you never once seem to be concerned about when you had your last meal and even if promised something after asking it never seems to show up. By the time you get in a ward, everything is closed for the night and you practically have to beg from the nurse staff on how it be that you can get something to eat. Or at least that has been our experience. So in addition to squirreling away some boot leg Covid vits, add a couple snack bars to that stash too.

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 January 12, 2024 00:01

That’s very good advice…I have a number of hospitalization stories from my son & both of my parents that bear this out 

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 January 11, 2024 20:46

BakoCarl gave a great lesson on this, prolly in 2020. Vegas hospital. Nightmare. Hungry, thirsty…after 36 hours or more, BakoCarl checked himself out of the hospital.

Will always remember BakoCarl’s post. Serious lessons learned. Self preservation.

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 January 12, 2024 00:02

“BakoCarl checked himself out of the hospital.” probably why he’s still alive & kicking, after God’s grace, of course!

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 January 11, 2024 21:45

para59r:
I have witnessed that exact scenario with someone I was helping when they went to the ER. You wrote as if you had been there with us. I’m sorry this is happening in multiple places. “Standard of care” is becoming a joke. They don’t even try to keep the patient hydrated.

More thoughts on the ethics & morals, or lack thereof, of what’s going on now:

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 January 11, 2024 05:09

fwiw, I believe that there is a Huge Moral & Ethical difference between ALLOWING someone to die & CAUSING someone to die. Being designated as my parents’ medical decision-maker in the event of their incapacitation, I have made very clear the difference in approaches & what I am willing & unwilling to do. One is allowing “nature” to take it’s course & the other is artificially hastening death which, from my view, is abhorrent, though can certainly be tempting in situations of extreme suffering & lingering edge of life-less-ness…sigh…

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 January 11, 2024 05:15

The Liverpool Pathway is MURDER PERIOD! In the UK often the patient and family had no idea a Doctor ‘prescribed it’ Many times it was ‘prescribed’ on a weekend because the Doctors were TOO DAMN LAZY TO DO THEIR JOB!

The patient would have been better off AT HOME and at least allowed to die with the people who love them surrounding them.

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 January 11, 2024 06:35

Yep – and Trudeau/Canada are all down with this evil.

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 January 11, 2024 07:22

Yep & now they can “assist” the suicide of mental health sufferers too   

This aside discusses the standard of care, or lack thereof, as well as end of life “care” with brief testimonies of suffering of loved ones. 😦

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 January 11, 2024 05:09

If Biden can be a “standard of POTUS” and Demonrats can be a “standard of government”, then the Liverpool Pathway can be a “standard of healthcare”, I’m afraid.

It is horrifying to have this happen so close to you and your family, and you have my condolences — weak as they may be. This is a great plague upon our society — compared to which, COVID is but a trifle.

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 January 11, 2024 07:24

The demons of death are all about us!

One good thing that came out of the lingering illness was a reconciliation between these two sisters. Also the widower has been open to reading the Bible & is closer to coming to Christ now than he ever was before his wife’s coma. What Satan meant for evil God has meant for good!

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 January 11, 2024 05:54

I think it’s called Palliative Care.

and it’s controversial because it hastens dying….altho the med profession might argue that.

an alternative to Hospice.

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 January 11, 2024 06:44

It saves money and the Insurance companies LOVE that.

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 January 11, 2024 09:07

yep

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 January 11, 2024 06:57

My understanding of that term is keeping the dying comfortable as their life ends not Causing their life to end by dehydration & starvation. When people are legitimately dying I believe they eventually choose to stop food & drink themselves as their body systems are shutting down. Sometimes pain meds are used to relieve the suffering aspects of this process & they can be known to hasten death to some degree, iirc.

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 January 11, 2024 21:54

Palliative care is a step before hospice, though they won’t even admit that. Instead, they say it’s to aid the doctors with dietary guidance, etc., which IMO is a euphemism for easing the patient out of there (which means making them die sooner).

When the public learns what something means, the medical profession will change the terminology. It’s maddening that we can’t trust them anymore.

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 January 12, 2024 00:09

TY for these horrifying insights   

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 January 11, 2024 09:39

Exactly except in my father’s case it didn’t hasten death. His body and soul fought the assault for days and days and more days. It was horrible.

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 January 11, 2024 14:08

I’m so sorry for his suffering & for you & your family’s painful loss. God be with you all   

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 January 11, 2024 15:58

The same thing happened to my Dad…. The “doctors” told us he would die within 2 hours of removing the “life support”…. He lasted another week and I am convinced that he starved and dehydrated to death.

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 January 12, 2024 00:13

So sorry for your dad’s suffering & for the lingering grief & anger you & your family must contend with in the aftermath. May the Lord grant you His comfort & peace that passes understanding

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 January 11, 2024 16:11

My sympathy Razorback. It’s rough once the adrenalin and stress of making the decision subsides and we (the families) begin to see what’s happening. By then…what do you do..YKWIM?

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 January 11, 2024 21:50

I had a loved one placed on “palliative care” without my knowledge, and I was medical power of attorney. I was told it was just to help the doctors with the patient’s diet, etc., but I don’t believe that at all. Anyway, I hit the roof. The moral of the story is to have someone looking out for you if you are hospitalized. The medical establishment can’t be trusted anymore. I think they have adopted the population control mindset, and they are trying to keep costs down rather than looking after patients.

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 January 12, 2024 00:21

I’m so sorry that you & your loved one suffered such inhumane, immoral, & potentially illegal treatment. May the Lord minister to you in His grace and peace.

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 January 12, 2024 01:46

Thank you!

More suffering & comforts shared here as well as a testimony to a dignified death at home for one loved one:

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 January 11, 2024 08:16

My heart is hurting from reading these posts. I know them to be true based on personal experiences. I pray for peace and healing for all who are effected. I pray for protection of the innocent and hurting.

My youngest sister-in-law passed away earlier this year by her own decision at age 62. She had suffered from COPD for years, was on oxygen and basically bedridden. She was getting blood infections as a result. Her physicians and subsequently, the hospital staff offered very little hope of improvement or recovery, so she decided to go. They were quite effective at making that happen. We were all stunned at how matter of fact they were and efficient. They had her passing down to the hour. They were friendly, reassuring and comfortable with the whole thing.

SIL’s daughters were not happy with her decision and what they observed. They were not going to let it go. They did some digging as one of them is in the medical industry. She found there was successful treatment available for the blood issues that would have improved her mother’s quality of life measurably to help enjoy her five local grandchildren and become a bit more mobile, albeit with an oxygen tank/respirator. The medical folks just did not want to deal with it and did not present it as an option to my SIL. The daughter recently talked with an attorney. Have no idea how it will turn out, but there may be some people in an uncomfortable position soon, which they deserve. After painlessly killing my SIL they went home to their families that evening and resumed their lives as if nothing of consequence had happened.

Sickening.

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 Reply to  TradeBait2

 January 11, 2024 08:31

When talking to my Hubby’s Doctor a while back, I found that some tests I wanted done were not AUTHORIZED for those over 70. WTF!!!

And if I recall, once you are on medicare you are stuck. you CAN NOT pay out of pocket for additional care.

If you want the specifics I may be able to find it. It was from the OTHER Doctor’s association and NOT the AMA.

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 January 11, 2024 11:56

More specifically, you can’t pay for unapproved treatments if Medicare is paying part or most of the cost of care.

If you decline Medicare you can do what you want but it’s all on you.

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 Reply to  Gail Combs

 January 11, 2024 14:06

monstrous, unabated, unapologetic Evil!   

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 January 11, 2024 14:05

Mengele-esque murderers   

My other son’s father-in-law was a presumed clot shot casualty, who was eventually also killed medically in the most brutal way. His wife extended his life by many months just by continuing to stay by his side & insist that he get even the most basic aspects of care while he was hospitalized. She witnessed a whole wing of that hospital where the elderly were basically just left to die…alone…

This gentle, loving man, husband, father, & grandfather, was also a Vet who was denied access to his VA doc who knew him & the extent of his health needs. He died alone in an ambulance that transferred him against family wishes to a facility that was not equipped to handle his then respiratory needs & whose respiratory needs were not even addressed during transport. His wife basically watched him gasping his last breaths as she screamed at EMT’s to get him to a facility to address the breathing issues. That is a nightmare from which she can never awaken 

There is supposed to also be a lawsuit over this wrongful, painful death. I do not know how it is progressing as this is the first holiday season since his passing last Spring & it isn’t the time, yet, for such discussions, at least not on my part.

There will Never be Justice. I hope your SIL’s children will find a measure of solace. May the Lord have mercy on all these brutally violated souls!

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 January 11, 2024 13:41

I’m bringing over a reply to my comment above, which I copied to Sylvia’s blog:

https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/0139d4453dfbcfd14fcbeb27937e6823461d8acef8eaef5f58b5f80c02021728?s=48&d=identicon&r=Ggrandmaintexas
January 11, 2024 at 11:40 am

Hi Valerie. I’m so very sorry for the whole family, as well as the victim. I say victim and I mean it.

Unfortunately, this IS THE STANDARD OF CARE over much of our nation with very ill individuals. I experienced it firsthand with my mom (who was voluntarily in my sibling’s care). I won’t go into the details because it is so painful to remember.

I think, in order to reform the medical establishment, there needs to be a complete overhaul of classes on medical ethics in the universities. Also, real Christian hospitals (most of them have been taken over) need to reassert the values that caused hospitals to be founded in the first place. My dad requested and was able to die at home in his own bed, with his loved ones close by. He never went to the hospital, and there was dignity in his last days.

We need to bring back that kind of dignity to our ill and dying loved ones.
Thank you for sharing this painful story.

James Garfield, Union Colonel

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 January 11, 2024 13:54

My husband;s father did not go to the hospital and died at home also. He was about 6 weeks seriously sick. He dressed every morning until the day he died of heart failure. I was there my husband in and out. We stayed with him to the end. He was a dignified man and died the same as he lived.

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 January 11, 2024 14:36

that’s beautiful, precious, & how it should be–what a blessing for you all PTL

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 January 11, 2024 20:42

Yes he was contend and that is how he choose to go.

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 January 11, 2024 22:15

blessed release & lasting peace 

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 January 11, 2024 22:06

That’s what I want. I do not want to go to a hospital.

God bless you for letting the man die with his peace and dignity intact.

Further insights from recent Q-Treeper lost loved ones:

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 January 11, 2024 16:11

This is exactly why my family opted out of “life support” with my mother. It is an extraordinary measure that prolongs the inevitable. Yes, those two weeks between finding my mother unresponsive and her death were the longest two of my life, but in the end, those resources were available for someone who would wake up and recover. There are plenty out there.

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 January 12, 2024 00:52

I’m so sorry for the unimaginable sorrows your family suffered during your mother’s untimely passing. May the Lord continue to provide you with His comfort & peace.

We had friends whose father was in a coma many years ago. At one point there were discussions of removing him from life support & he was able to minimally indicate he wanted to not be unplugged (squeezing someone’s hand after questioning, iirc). So they left the life support intact & he eventually made a complete recovery, perhaps miraculously, & went on to live another 30 years or so.

Apparently even though he was in a coma he heard & understood the discussions going on around him but was mostly unable to indicate his level of consciousness.

My grandpa had an experience when under general anesthesia for a surgical procedure where he heard the stuff saying he was “bleeding like a stuck pig” & he thought he was going to die. I didn’t know that you could have some degree of conscious awareness while under general anesthesia…

My son, Josiah, experienced a vision of heaven when he was undergoing his Liver Transplant as a teenager. He’d gone into that surgery filled with fear but he ended up seeing God, hearing Him smile, & being told that he would be going home. His memory of this experience has faded over the decade since it happened, but in the early years when he spoke about his vision of Heaven it would send chills down all of our spines.

I believe the Lord was there with your mother comforting her & easing her passage through the veil into His Presence & everlasting joy…

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 January 11, 2024 21:41

Horrifying. These days we have to be careful about what they do to patients without their consent or without the consent of the medical power of attorney. A panel (or person, or one or two people) will decide that “palliative care” would be beneficial. I believe that’s a euphemism for hospice and the beginning of limiting life-saving and care measures, although of course they will not admit that. I was told once that it was to help the doctors by recommending what kind of diet a patient should be on, etc. I say baloney!

I’m so sorry about the lady’s suffering. It is sickening.

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 January 12, 2024 00:58

TY TT. Thankfully the majority of her family are Believers so they are experiencing the comfort that only comes from the Throne of Grace.

I agree about protecting any loved ones in a patient care situation. Up until my son was hospitalized for transplant rejection during covid I’ve always stayed bedside with him to help care for his needs & insure the staff uses appropriate meds, etc. In that hospitalization, summer of 2020, they promised I could stay bedside with him if he was placed in a private room, which he was. However they made me leave after the first night & would only allow someone there during visiting hours. Multiple bad things happened to him when we weren’t with him including them forcing a disabled adult to sign papers he didn’t understand so that he went through hours of mental & emotional distress…& then they lied about things too…no words for medical “care” these days!

This conversational interlude is from one of the sister blogs as we hash out the horror & hope…

grandmaintexas

January 11, 2024 at 11:40 am

Hi Valerie. I’m so very sorry for the whole family, as well as the victim. I say victim and I mean it.

Unfortunately, this IS THE STANDARD OF CARE over much of our nation with very ill individuals. I experienced it firsthand with my mom (who was voluntarily in my sibling’s care). I won’t go into the details because it is so painful to remember.

I think, in order to reform the medical establishment, there needs to be a complete overhaul of classes on medical ethics in the universities. Also, real Christian hospitals (most of them have been taken over) need to reassert the values that caused hospitals to be founded in the first place. My dad requested and was able to die at home in his own bed, with his loved ones close by. He never went to the hospital, and there was dignity in his last days.

We need to bring back that kind of dignity to our ill and dying loved ones.

Thank you for sharing this painful story.

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1. Valerie CurrenJanuary 11, 2024 at 1:30 pmOh Grandma, I am so sorry for your mother’s sufferings & the pain & loss you are still dealing with. There are no words Your insights on medical care are deeply meaningful. May God grant strength & wisdom to His people to effect these vital improvements & restoration of moral & ethical care of the infirm both here & abroad!Liked by 3 peopleReply
   1. grandmaintexasJanuary 11, 2024 at 3:05 pmAmen, Valerie.Liked by youReply

kyblue

January 11, 2024 at 12:10 pm

Oh Valerie…what a heart wrenching story. Gosh. And probably being played out everywhere. Right now. The jab. We will being seeing lots more in the future. Murder. Crimes against humanity. And health agencies are Still pushing the death jab.

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1. Valerie CurrenJanuary 11, 2024 at 1:37 pm “Crimes against humanity” & God’s law captures the essence of this continuing horror.Steve Kirsch, iirc, had a survey of survivors of the clot shot & of the clot shot victims. For a time I was sharing snippets of representative horror stories of what people endured themselves or witnessed being inflicted on loved ones–incomprehensible suffering & sorrow abounds. There is a deep well of pain of the soul in our society for these battered, broken, & even buried victims of the totalitarian psychopathic genocidal terrorists still breathing out murderous death & destruction worldwide Liked by 2 peopleReply
   1. kyblueJanuary 11, 2024 at 1:46 pm Most of the suddenly deaths I see on X, the families are baffled. I posted something yesterday, I think, doctors are baffled too. As if. Covering their hind ends. Doctors are baffled by turbo cancers, heart conditions, children with heart ailments. The list is long. Crimes against humanity. And then there is Bill Gates wanting to reduce the population. Through vaccines.Liked by you and 1 other personReply
      1. Valerie CurrenJanuary 11, 2024 at 2:25 pm I keep (delusionally) hoping to wake from this nightmare!God help us all ASAP!Liked by 2 peopleReply
         1. kyblueJanuary 11, 2024 at 2:45 pm I know, Valerie 

The above conversation starts here:

James Garfield, Union Colonel

Society has taken a very dark turn for these types of horrors to be inflicted on hurting people who find themselves in the midst of a health crisis, often brought on by having succumbed to allowing the clot shot aka the Covid “vaccine” (it’s not a vaccine by any reasonable measure & the traditional meaning of that word) which has brought so much disability, destruction, & death into so many lives.

The stories of the horrors associated with the slab jab are out there if one knows where to look, especially if one looks at suppressed voices who have gone on alternative media in order to be heard. Died suddenly or died unexpectedly are often clues as to the nature of what came upon someone after submitting to the shot!

I had intended to gather a bunch of these tales, just from what was on the Q-Tree the day I posted the story of my son’s wife’s mother’s sister’s death, but I will just choose a small selection at this point to not make this blog post too ungainly. Such untimely & unnecessary deaths are documented & discussed nearly every day on TheQTree.com & many of the sister blogs so you could stop by & check out the info yourself if you so choose…

PAVACA is a serious Truth Warrior who does heroic work exposing the truth about the shots & the underlying & even hidden science. Her comments are always worth reviewing!

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 January 11, 2024 12:41

MORE on the presentation yesterday of Steve Connolly’s deep dive into finding the instances of people dying “suddenly and unexpectedly” —
Dr. Pierre Kory has an article that links Mr. Connolly’s research, with added analysis of his (Dr. Kory’s) own.

https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/cp/1401153832
“Suddenly & Unexpectedly Steve’s Endeavor”

Yours Truly: Take away from the article, in the words of Dr. Kory:
“”Died Suddenly” and “Died Unexpectedly” are not happening from covid. Something else is causing these to occur. And it’s not long covid or climate change.”
IMO, what’s going on with “Died Suddenly” and “Died Unexpectedly” since the rollout of the COVID-19 “vaccines” in December 2020 / January 2021, are the following:

One: incremental and accumulated cardiovascular and/or lung damage from the “vaccines”, leading to a catastrophic event (https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/causality-article.pdf)
Two: body-wide incremental and accumulated damage at the mitochondrial level from the p/”vaccines” (www.theqtree.com/2023/10/28/the-covid-19-virus-and-the-modmrna-covid-19-vaccines-induce-accelerated-aging/; and, https://doi.org/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902, “SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2”, Yuyang Lei, et al.)
Three: “turbo-cancers” induced by the “vaccines”, cancers in remission “suddenly” coming back, and cancers under treatment being aggravated (https://palexander.substack.com/p/increased-cancer-and-covid-gene-injection).

Among other types of damage that the “vaccines” cause to the “vaccine” recipient’s body, resulting in the body becoming unable to fight off an infection, etc.

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Yours Truly will add to the above, h/t Marica’s blog. It is inconceivable that Dr. Birx did NOT know, back in early 2021, that the COVID-19 “vaccines” attack the mitochondria of the “vaccine” recipient’s body (and why in Hades is she literally laughing during the video clip?) —

NEW – Dr. Deborah Birx Says 'Long COVID' is Similar to HIV

"HIV quietly destroyed our immune system…We're learning now about mitochondria and viral impact and brain fog and the changes in our neurons and the cells that nourish our neurons that really allow us to think and… pic.twitter.com/udJJ8IRYT7

— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) January 11, 2024

This is an example of the type of info often brought to the Q-Tree on the dangers of the shot:

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 January 11, 2024 17:53

Well, I’d hope this is anecdotal as he only talks one case from 28 yr old male autopsy before vid cuts off but it seems part of a broader discussion and though we’ve talked some of this before, I don’t think it was like this. Disturbing if wide spread.

German Pathologist Dr Arne Burkhardt Shows How Vaxx-Spike Proteins Are Replacing Sperm (2mins) (to the point where there is no sperm in the testes, just spike proteins…Ackkkk!)

In case you don’t watch, his advice, woman should not try to sex with vaxx’d guys.

Here are some twitter profiles of those exposing the dangers of the Covid shots.

Tweets by VacSafety

Tweets by GVDBossche

Ten-part video series summarizing my new book can be found here: https://t.co/yJfRx645aC

Order the book at https://t.co/SXjYGCce3a#covidvacccine #scientificliteracy #pandemic #inescapableimmuneescape pic.twitter.com/TREHu4q76X

— Geert Vanden Bossche (@GVDBossche) June 8, 2023

A heads up comment from the Q-Tree’s fearless leader & Alpha Wolf!

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 January 11, 2024 03:51

A long and painful but excellent thread demonstrating institutional conflict of interest in COVID research. It’s actually rather shocking.

Thread 🧵

Since everyone seemed to have really enjoyed the last COI post, let’s have a look another study being promoted by individuals deeply entrenched in the Bio-Pharmaceutical industry and who have never met a countermeasure or injection they didn’t like. pic.twitter.com/ckA0gavjbG

— Champagne Joshi (@JoshWalkos) January 10, 2024

If you are not on twitter/X you can still follow conversations there at Nitter.net; here’s the above:

https://nitter.net/JoshWalkos/status/1745195994575192162

OK, to wrap this heavy post up with a bit of hope there are things that can be done to counteract the effects of the Covid clot shot. I’ve rounded many of them up in this post:

Vax Attack Strategies

Ultimately looking to the Lord for wisdom, strength, peace, courage, protection, healing, & even joy in the midst of sorrows is perhaps the best way to navigate these perilous times & to keep an eternal perspective as we continue to do battle with many forces of darkness stalking us in this fallen world. May the Lord guide us all as we go forward into truth, light, love, hope & life. God bless You!